I retroactively support the Jews ban (ch-r-m)/actions toward the pre Israeli inhabitants of Canaan (Hittite and the Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and the Jebusites) in the Book of Joshua. I retroactively support the way that the Jews conquered Canaan in the book of Joshua and took it over.
This shows why I feel this way.
justified edginess too
I especially like how the Mossad went to places like South America, then covertly kidnapped, captured and brought to Israel for justice those former NDSAP fascists in the 1960s etc
I could care less if Amos Oz and other Leftist Anti Zionist people call Israeli occupiers in the West Bank, ‘Neofascists’,(
judeo naughtzie)After the
Jewish Messiah comes to Earth (as the Neturei Karta claim), and restores the land of Israel, I will then support those Israeli settlers in that reformed Land of Israel in the West Bank despite that comparison
so i will be judeo naughtzie then wsaid future support
I present some balance to Left wing critique of modern day, pre Jewish Messiah Israel occupying the modern day pre Jewish Messiah West Bank as can be found
here ,and
here.
Annexing the modern day, pre Jewish Messiah West Bank is bad because it will either wrongly cause the Palestinians to be second class, non-voting citizens in Israel (which would threaten the democratic character of Israel) or it will cause Palestinians to have equal rights (which will threaten the Jewish character of Israel). Neither of these options are viable or good for either side. adl
However one of my solutions to the Israel-Palestinian conflict is for one state (One State Solution) between the Mediterranean and Jordan like the creator the BDS, Omar Barghouti wants. adl
For the sake of argument, even though I do not support modern day, pre Jewish Messiah Israel occupying the modern day pre Jewish Messiah West Bank, in the context of history, supporting such occupation by Israel of the West Bank can be seen as Left Wing cause since supporting such colonialism by Israel was originally a Left Wing cause
to get in touch w my judeo naughtzie self https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparisons_between_Israel_and_Nazi_Germany
A lot of the early Zionists were said to to be Socialists. The USSR was one of the first countries to recognize Israel as a country, Israel won the 1948 war against the Arabs in large part due to arms shipments that came from Communist Czechoslovakia, many of the early kibbutzim were proto Socialist communities(Noam Chomsky worked on one), David Ben Gurion (founding father of Israel) was the leader of ‘Mapai’ the ‘Workers Party’ which is a Democratic Socialist organization.
A lot of the Old Left was pro Israel as a result. There was enormous sympathy for the new Jewish state because of the WWII, also in 1948 Israel looked like the more progressive option compared to the feudal Arab regimes which surrounded Israel.
I support the Capital of Israel being moved to Jerusalem because as long Israel exists or exists as it is, the Capital might as well be in its eternal and traditional place adl j.g (Jerusalem). I also support the US embassy being moved to Jerusalem
Though maybe it would be better if the Capital of Israel is moved to either the Ancient biblical city of
Bethel or to Shiloh (but via a Donald Trump type 'let's make a deal' so Palestinians get something for giving up Shiloh to the Jews). But I can live with the embassy being in Jerusalem now
I admire Israel for being so unique and for the passion and unity that Israelis have for their country Richard Spncr
I like how the state of Israel is the homeland for Jews after their centuries of oppression in Europe (I am very glad that Israel was created to give a safe haven and a refuge to Jewish people after two thousand years of diaspora and senseless abuse in other countries. pro zionist argument like adlish) .
Since I am part Jewish, I love there is a whole Zionist country like Israel devoted to mainly to Judaism Jewish culture (Hanukkah, Passover, food, music etc) .
my views in early mid 2000s, the zionist part according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_antisemitism#Zionism_as_expulsion makes me sound like i support stereotyping jews via zionism like early zionist fake antisemeties did
I think it is cool how they reformed their country after 2000 years since you never see countries reform after being destroyed (though if what the Judeo Christians say is in that the true Israel won’t be created until Jesus comes back to Earth and creates a true Israel for all Judeo Christians on heavenly post Earth , that will be even cooler than and majorly downplay our current Israel reforming in 1948 after 2000 years)
This gives me hope that the Native Americans and First Nations can reform their former lands and empires within the US and Canada back one day too (though not until we abolish , alter or reimagine private property)
I like how Israel is an outlier in the Middle East like I am an outlier myself, (for better or for worse), my views in early mid 2000s
i support maintaining the distinctiveness of Israel as a nation The injunction that “man must not lie with man” (Leviticus 18:22, 20:13) coheres with the context of a society anxious about their health, continuing family lineages, and retaining the distinctiveness of Israel as a nation. https://www.hrc.org/resources/what-does-the-bible-say-about-homosexuality
Israel is a special place amongst the nations of the world and is considered a democratic civilized first world country
***** Well according to my crazy Zionist (past life)
racist Grandma who blurts out the most recest things at our holiday dinners AND according to some typical born in c 1967, Gen X Democrat loyalist Dan Savage/2000s Democratic Underground like, heteroflexible/LGBTQ leaning blue haired male Liberal (who was pro Democrat and liberal since the mid to late 1980s) who even supports a two state solution for Israel-Palestine
might say that such genocide by Israel toward the Palestinians
is justified. Israelis and the Israeli government do care about Palestinians but they care more about Israel and Israelis (of all religions etc). The laws in the land are certainly not in best interests of the Palestinians (like in terms of equal-equitable rights), and the IDF has a 18 year siege on Gaza.
*****So what I am saying is for Israel to turn against Palestine and do what I said above and what Maria Salazar called for against Palestinians, Israel would have to get permission from the Cuban communist government to do so since, Maria Salazar was sympathetic to Fidel Castro and the Cuban government AND Cuba would reject that genocide against Palestine request by Israel and thus Israel would never do it and may be talked into (by Cuba) to treat Palestinians like Maria Salazar treats unborn babies (being pro life) and how Cuba relates to the socialist Arab world (so in other words have Israel treat Palestinians much better than they do now)
*****My Steven Crowder like 'Change My mind challenge' to Israel leadership: Prove to me in a way that the scientific method can confirm that God AND Allah has destined you to do this to Gaza "You must remember what Amalek has done to you, says our Holy Bible. And we do remember", referencing 1 Samuel 15:3 in the Hebrew Bible.[b] AND if I reincarnate in a few thousand years on Earth I will look as positively and supportive of your actions towards Gaza/Palestine in 2023 and in a wider scope the last few decades, when I read the written record of your 'Amalek 2.0' against Palestine in your Torah's New Testament, the same exact way I look positively and supportively of Israel's actions toward all its enemies it defeated in Israel in the Old Testament today and especially in 2007 and 2014 when I did my full OT and NT bible readings
Otherwise, since you can never prove that to me, what do you call your statements above which are certainly genocidal? So Change my Mind so I can see where you are coming from on your 'peaceful' ethnic cleansing of Palestinians in disguise
I am against Israel genociding the Palestinians whether or not if it has happened, is happening or will happen. I support world peace and pacifism so obviously (heal the world song)
Due to Israel being positive toward Russia during the Russia Ukraine conflict, I give Israel some leeway as is partly why I am as charitable toward Israel as I am in this blog
I also like how Israel has closes ties to Vietnam and in someways
to China
Here is a similar concept to Israel by feminist Andrea Dworkin but for women.
Critique of Israel
I see this Israel-Palestine conflict through the prism of Postcolonial Anarchism/Independent Anarchism
Edward Said did once say “Zionism never spoke of itself unambiguously as a Jewish liberation movement, but rather as a Jewish movement for colonial settlement in the Orient.” dismantle adl
***Settler colonialism as a theory has also been criticized from the standpoint of postcolonial theory.
[15]****But it is morally right by God's standards so I defer to God (But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord,
Joshua 24:15 OT)
Of course Ian Malcolm said in Jurassic Park: "God creates dinosaurs. God destroys dinosaurs. God creates man. Man destroys God." BUT It doesn't matter because Jesus's death was predestined by God as a plan to save humanity. If Jesus wasn't crucified and killed, no Christians would be saved so the Jewish peoples' role in Jesus death saved humanity, because if he didn't get crucifed and killed, none of us would be able to have eternal life. Jesus gave his life willingly as a sacrifice for sin (Mark 10:45, John 18:11).
Filter this through my other complex and personal spiritual beliefsAbout Israel being the only safe place for Jews, I think this poster below has a good counter point to that:
"I’m Jewish and you couldn’t pay me any amount of money to move to Israel. Why would I feel safer moving to a nation that just had over 1,000 citizens killed by a neighboring state and is surrounded by countries who want to annihilate them as opposed to living in the US which is incredibly far removed from all of that? Do you think the United States does a bad job defending its Jewish citizens?" destiny reddit oct 2023
There is a fascist element (at worst) to the IDF, the Right wing/far right governments of Israel and their GOP-Christians United for Israel/Israel lobby cheerleaders (like the Herut party was) and a **pioneer occupying-imperialist element of Israel https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/101qcl0/un_vote_to_seek_icj_opinion_on_israels_occupation/ as a whole
. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparisons_between_Israel_and_Nazi_Germany
** If the term 'settler colonialism' is offensive to Zionists and their Pro Israel allies I will use pioneer instead
^Israel is a noticeable human rights violator according to the UN and they have wrought oppression to the Palestinians, refugees etc for decades (Jesus says turn the other cheek, Israel should heed Jesus's advice there and in his words and actions in regards to the Roman Empire when the Jews in Judea wanted to fight back against the Roman occupiers in Judea in the NT who were oppressing them.
^Israel is a noticeable human rights violator according to the UN and they have wrought oppression to the Palestinians, refugees etc for decades (Jesus says turn the other cheek, Israel should heed Jesus's advice to the Israelis when they wanted to get revenge on the Roman occupiers in Judea in the NT)
^ Go to google.com and type in "Israel","human rights" site:un.org
But to play devil's advocate, Israel abusing some Palestinians here and there might be what Palestinians need to learn to behave themselves and beat some sense and morality into the bad apple Palestinians (might makes right) what jesse ventura said about us troops dying according to c kyles wife
Israel wrongly treated the peace floatilla activists like terrorists and they dehumanized and smeared those peace floatilla activists like they dehumanized and smeared Palestinians for decades
But Israel isn’t a democracy (though neither is the US, the US is a Constitutional Republic, maybe it isn't so bad that Israel is not a democracy [see
here,
here (with a grain of salt) also note that Israel is a
theocracy which according to Zionists, Post zionists, Neutri Kara and non Zionists who are pro Israel, is better than a democracy)
No, Israel is this
colonized settler state and ethnocentric state that is built around privileging Jewish Israelis over everyone else (but they still treat everyone else in Israel's occupied lands and the surrounding areas fairly and pretty fine compared to a hell lot of other countries. It's just that there is a systematic bias gap between Israelis and non Israelis in that area which needs to be closed) .
But Israel isn’t a democracy (though neither is the US, the US is a Constitutional Republic), it is this colonized settler state and ethnocracy that is built around privileging Jewish Israelis over everyone else (but they treat everyone else fairly and fine but not as good as Jewish Israelis and this is through policy or at best subconsciously, in line with Israeli propagandists on destiny sub) .
This pushes Israel to instate chauvinist laws which while maybe not intended to be in line with Israeli propagandists on destiny sub but come of as breed discrimination against Palestinians, even Palestinians that it begrudgingly calls citizens of Israel. https://decolonizepalestine.com/intro/bds-101/
If Israel was truly an egalitarian and democratic state (Israel would need have a
left wing government left of the US Democratic Party to be egalitarian since only Leftists can be egalitarian), then it wouldn’t matter what the demographic make up of Israel is. A citizen is a citizen. :"
Star light, star bright,
First star I see tonight;
I wish I may, I wish I might (me wishing for demolition wwf figures c 1991 which I got a few months later)
Have the wish I wish tonight (which is that Israel adopts such a left wing government that I mentioned above)"
I felt this way back in the early 2000s viewing online photos of Israel (like Hanukkah celebrations) where I saw all white Israelis and no Palestinians and no Jews of other races-ethnicities in said photos . It did feel a tad like a Apartheid viewing those photos back then.
https://decolonizepalestine.com/intro/bds-101/
I have since come to my senses and downplay these thoughts or even no longer reel this way but I can see why some BDS say that Israel is an Apartheid state and this can be seen in my Israel Palestine views throughout this blog.
According to Sander Gilman and Shaun King, Jews were *originally POC (dark skinned), so there is no excuse for Israel to continue to be what some deem as a white #
ethnocracy (not that they should be a white ethnocracy if that isn’t true, because they shouldn’t be a white ethnocracy regardless , I am anti racial-ethnic ethnocracy). Israel should grant and respect basic rights, implement and adhere to international law and be a state for all citizens.
*To expand on this, the bible does say in Revelations that Jesus eyes are like flames of fire, and his hair is like wool. Furthermore some people feel that the Lost tribes of Israel were BIPOC
This logic animates much of Israel’s demographic obsessions, giving credence to the dehumanizing view that Palestinian babies are demographic ‘threats’, because they ‘endanger’ an absolute Jewish majority.
https://decolonizepalestine.com/intro/bds-101/
However, returning refugees would effectively end the Israeli regime which has historically organized itself through
new age colonial and discriminatory Zionist policies of Israeli chauvinism. Of course, maybe the extremism of Hezbollah and Hamas rubbed off on Israel making them act in such a way. Who knows really
However, returning refugees would effectively end the Israeli regime which has historically organized itself through. colonial and discriminatory Zionist policies of Israeli chauvinism. https://decolonizepalestine.com/intro/bds-101/ Of course, maybe the extremism of Hezbollah and Hamas rubbed off on Israel making them act in such a way. Who knows really
We shouldn't be so hard on Israel since according to the Torah God pushes his nautral will by doing things that are at times seemingly against all countries on Earth, including Israel (but for good reasons not antisemetic reasons, and not to punish per say, just a 'karma thing due to how you lived' type of thing and done subtly a la Butterfly Effect). So let God be the one to do those things to all countries he sees fit to do them to (which furthers his will). J Hagee like
Even if Israel are acting on being provoked by the Palestinians (not that the Palestinians are are bad, both sides think they equally got a legit grievance though just Israel's grievance is more
surreal than the Palestinians' grievance in my opinion) to combat the Palestinians so called aggression Israel should stand down and find more humane ways to counter the Palestinians maybe like the IDF being disbanded and replaced with an
Anarcho Capitalist societal type of
private security company or the IDF staying together but complying with UN international law or other ways supported by the Progressives in Israel
Even if Israel are acting on being provoked by the Palestinians to get in touch w my judeo naughtzie self https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparisons_between_Israel_and_Nazi_Germany (not that the Palestinians are are bad, both sides equally got a legit grievance its just Israel's grievance is more faux legit than the Palestians' grievance which is actually as legit ) to combat the Palestinians so called aggression they should stand down and find more humane ways to counter the Palestinians
I get upset with Israel when I see senseless killings of innocent Palestinians or non Palestinian Arabs by Israelis. I saw one photo in 2003 of a Lebanese baby with his head blown off by IDF soldiers or this innocent boy who was used as a shield by the Palestinians who was brutally murdered by Israel soldiers and those deaths should not happen ever
I view the IDF like former Israeli general and deputy chief of staff of the IDF Yair Golan views them https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparisons_between_Israel_and_Nazi_Germany
Look at the reactions of Palestinians as mentioned here (pp 59-79) when Israel disengaged from Gaza. If Israel was so squeaky clean why would those Palestinians react like that if they weren’t being abused by Israeli?
The IDF does seem to have some fascist element to it just like the US military has a white supremacist, fringe right extremist element to it.(but given the mad criticism of the IDF by various human rights organizations, Israelis, Palestinians etc, that makes IDF's bad seeds stick out more than the US military's bad seeds)
Their senseless aggression and terrorism is no matter how fog of war or spun by apologists as justified is wrong. IDF needs a lot more women leaders and maybe to become women only units (like the YPJ) to add a compassionate and caring element to it to prevent such atrocities (since women are peaceful and men are evil violent pigs) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparisons_between_Israel_and_Nazi_Germany
It is intellectually dishonest to claim that dismantling this problematic undemocratic system as found in Israel is tantamount for calling for the genocide of Israelis, as it is often claimed. https://decolonizepalestine.com/intro/bds-101/
When the Apartheid regime in South Africa was defeated, this didn’t mean the physical destruction or genocide of South Africa as a state or of the Afrikaner despite critics of the ANC constantly falsely accused them of calling for the genocide of the white population, similar to how Israelis do in our time against Palestinians (Israel is not a white supremacist or Apartheid state I just used this to make a point)
https://decolonizepalestine.com/intro/bds-101/
Israel has committed countless harsh human rights violations against the Palestinians for decades using the cover of being ‘America of the Middle East’ . This allowed Israel to avoid blowback and scrutiny for their abuse that other Middle Eastern countries could never be afforded (I won't play both sides here since this section is for me criticizing Israel not Palestine)
If Israel is to be the ‘America of the Middle East’ it should live up to that label and handle the Palestinian situation more humanely and compassionately.here
Since some fringe ultranationalist Israel supporters and impulsive, ignorant and naive Israelis keep smearing and dehumanizing Palestinians as ‘terrorists’ I have no pity when their actions toward the Palestinians are called genocidal (or I believe Israel’s overzealous actions toward the Palestinians can leave their actions towards the Palestinians could leave those actions being called a genocide) even though I know that Palestinians are literally caught between a rock and a hard place and it is hard for Israel to fight the extremists of Hamas without some collateral damage. But to quote congress woman Shonel Brown “all sides, regardless of fault, to exercise restraint and de-escalate the crisis.”
Since some fringe ultranationalist Israel supporters and Israelis keep smearing and dehumanizing Palestinians as ‘terrorists’ I have no pity when their actions toward the Palestinians are called genocidal like from Chile under Broad front (or I believe Israel’s overzealous actions toward the Palestinians can leave their actions towards the Palestinians could leave those actions being called a genocide) even though I know that both sides of this issue are equally brutal at times just in different ways. to get in touch w my judeo naughtzie self https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparisons_between_Israel_and_Nazi_Germany
These atrocities have caused pain and suffering on both sides. Israel should be held to a higher standard since they think they are God’s people and they are a first world country and America of the middle east.
Israel should have been dealing with migrants the way that the Christian Romans dealt with the Israelis to get in touch w my judeo naughtzie self https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparisons_between_Israel_and_Nazi_Germany during the bible at worst, I can see how some people say that Israeli democracy is eroding.
Free elections and a parliament don't mean a country is free (look at Russia for proof) maybe left wing reddit, bds etc. Israel has done questionable things including wars recently that leaves themselves open to criticism
There also is discrimination against different Jewish groups and Palestinian Christians in Israel by Israel. This is my biggest gripe with Israel's actions. Not to downplay their other negative actions toward Palestinians but the above actions are enough for me to have the critical views on Israel I have in this blog
I do view Israel as being much much closer to being like the USSR under Joseph Stalin than to being a Fascist country.
Israel seems to want a heavenly peaceful country (like Israel under King David and King Solomon) just like the USSR under Joseph Stalin wanted a similar positive country but both Israel and the USSR under Joseph Stalin used/use the same type of red fascist violence to or try to acheive this , the ends never justify the means when humans lives are disposed to make this happen
More of Israel’s decades of human rights abuses against the Palestinians can be found here
I'll always be pro co-exist and support Israel even if Israel goes harder on the Palestinians. I will always be pro co-exist support Israel unlike Abraham Foxman
At worst , while I am still being pro co-exist, I would unconciously be hoping that G-d corrects Israel for their negative actions against the Palestinians literally the same exact methods he used to correct the Jews while they were roaming in the wilderness for 40 years in Exodus but without violence. Israel needs to show they are the bigger person.
I realize because war is hell that at least somewhat excuses some of Israel’s and the IDF’s more brutal actions against the Palestinians that I mention on this page to get in touch w my judeo naughtzie self https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparisons_between_Israel_and_Nazi_Germany
Israel gets away with ultra borderhawk immigration policies and nativitism while if the US did something like that countries like the UK, Germany, Israel, the ADL would rightfully condemn the US .It is a double standard. If we criticize the US for that we must criticize Israel for that too. Tucker carlson but from left
I disagree with some left Anti Israel people that Israel has been silent on white nationalism and implicitly or explicitly condoning antisemitic Zionists. For all their faults, Israel has rightfully been fighting against white nationalism and antisemeitism for aeons. There is no such thing as a "Zionist monopoly over the narrative of Jewish survival”. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_antisemitism#Zionism_as_expulsion i defend Israel and state above criticism of israeli ethnocracy doesnt include white nationalism accusations
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