Political syndicalretic thought:
A mix of Corporatist Kemalist/Social State Corporatism (left winger who is like right winger but corporatist=sort of fascist/fascist) version of Left Wing Bunchism (left wing fascism not red fascism)
, left wing fascism according to simple wikipedia article https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Left-wing_fascism&oldid=8762258bunch like bundle which means fascism: Left-wing Bunchism politics imitate and engage in the established ideology of uniformed Auth Center right Unity on the far left area on the political spectrum.
Auth Center right Unity has in past times been recognized as being part of outlying rightist politics
The actually existing left-wing version of Auth Center right Unity (called Left wing Bunchism) was talked about after the two World Wars where a lot of Social-Nationalist groups throughout Europe were spotted to be supporting left-wing viewpoints, some of said left wing viewpoints in head-on opposition to rightoid groups. Left-wing Bunchism has been mentioned and talk about in the academic fields and was the subject of written works by Irving Louis Horowitz, Jürgen Habermas, and Victor Klemperer
which heavily draws elements of this political ideology (fascist mod on simpsonsshitposts subreddit)
Auth Center right Unity: Auth center= ndsap fash according to political compass memes, here i add right to make it right ward , unity is a pcm lingo
Faux Ultranationalist Conservatism (fascism polcompball) with rotted Capitalism ((fascism polcompball, capialism in decay, leftists in 20th century like rosa called capitalism rotting)
A super revolutionary form (ultra)
of societal newbirth (palingenesis according to wikipedia) of
sea to shining sea of public spirit of philosophical, commemorated, linguistic commonality and heritage (i.e nationalism) so taken together ultranational palingenesis=fascism polcompball
kemalism was only left wing ideology in study to show similarities to right wing ideologies, corporate to it makes it really fasc like /right wing,
Similar to an ideology that is similar to an alternate history form of tankie ultrapaternalistic tyranny russian paternalism similar to russfash (russian fascism), ultra means extreme form of it like ultranational ,tyranny fits the name of this ideoloy, tankie rpleaces russian and red in descripter due to roman22 being exposed on tankiejerk
tankie ultrapaternalistic tyranny:
Similar to an ideology that is similar to an alternate history form of Red Yuri Andropov ideology in a world where Yuri was as bad as Samantha Smith feared that is
(which together is fascism, that type of red fascism is essential hard zealous right wing and even fascistish)
mixed with:
Ideology of social media politico Roman (in twitter he has politics with (third position) as number 1 ideology people want him to tweet about over politics (general), so i mean that politics as in politics (third posiiton) when i wright politico above
This also includes a Prefiguratived Liberalism 1.0 2.0 (a new version of Liberalism 1.0 that is not Liberalism 2.0) version of an ideology that merges or becomes aligned with the *IOSVI on crack affinity group (when liberals side with fascists in future like they did in 1930s Germany etc here i support weird future ie preconfig version of it wall street occ guy supported preconf politics)
IOSVI on crack means:
Story behind 1056
The numbers 1056 which come after each username Ziółkowski uses originate from a talk between Ziółkowski and his Welsh friend, where they wanted to create a number like 1488 but for moderate nationalists who did not believe in race supremacy or genocide. The number 1056 is the year Wales was founded.
so I=1 O=0 S=5 VI=6 on crack means 1488ish
so this type of fascism is tankie pro china type mixed with ita fascism (roman) with a 1488 faction of alt right BUT a neutred 1488 faction as seen below to be center right give or take a little left and right of a left wing alt lite instead of alt right
* The *IOSVI on crack affinity group is an Anti-American, One Cosmopolity Libertarian (together is 1488 seperatism : with a touch of multi internal federalism i.e ethnic federalism similar to ideology of 1488 (wikipedia about ethnic federalism good points: to provide assistance for demands cohert (ethnic) autonomy and manage inter-cohert anxieties) and Insurrectionary anarchism. It calls for a uber patriotism that is reflective of the people that make up our lands (see fourteen words article 1488). It considers countries who ally with the US as committing a type of treason by allying with the US see fourteen words article 1488. It also has Kat Blaque viewpoints on diversity and equality(in 2015 on facebook she criticized anti white racism, so she leftie version of 1488's similar views including on 'diversity'
that is a faction of the political group known as a not left not right but vital center version of the Left wing Alt Lite
(who have the type of organization structure that this political blogger here's political ideology uses) my fringe right political blog in link (pre main blogs), which should move left wing alt lite rightward,org structure = fascism uses left wing org structure w right wing politics ditto for black bloc right wing euro groups)
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fourteen_Words&oldid=1154547617
Third stance (stance syn of position)/ Middle Way camp (wikipedia listed middle way as another name for Third way, third camp used in Marxism-leninism trotyskism) etc are political ideologies, that criticize Capitalism and Marxism, deciding on supporting Corporatism or other non-mainstream economic systems like Right wing Syndicalism, Distributism or Non-Marxist Socialism. They also criticize Globalization, Multiculturalism and Imperialism The third stance/Middle way camp etc is a much bigger label which incompasses a large range of ideologies
(third position https://polcompball.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:Third_Position https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Position)
I take a Third Stance/Middle way Camp stance on individualism/collectivism and add that to my Fourth Political theory along with some type of communitarianism that meshes with the 4pt policialcmpassmeme reddit
below is from https://nationaldissident.com/what-the-third-position-can-learn-from-the-fourth-political-theory/#About%20us
When it comes to contemporary anti-liberal people – those who actually transcend liberalism – it’s tough to find a more fine-read and toxic philosopher than Russian Alexander Dugin. Having created and formalized a political ideology he labels as “Fourth Political theory Position” or the “Fourth Political Theory,” Dugin has put out a theoretical framework for humanity or – taking from Heidegger, as Dugin does, – Dasein is a “no” to liberalism and a change up from the matrix of capitalist-realism.
The Fourth Political Theory (4PT),, is a newer type of political ideology that is dissimilar to the three preceding ideologies: capitalism or liberalism (the first political theory), Communism or Marxism (the second political theory) and fascism or Naughtizism (the third political theory [3PT]).
Yet the 4PT is not a total rejection of the previous 3 political ideologies. Rather it is better viewed as an surpassing or transcendence of the 3 ideologies since the 4pt creates ts own route which extracts the good from each of them while repudiating the bad from both of them
Thus many of us
Third Stance/Middle way Campers will discover a lot to agree with in the work of Dugin, especially his blistering criticisms of liberalism which, of each of aforementioned three ideologies, receives the lion's share of his rage. But now as
Third Stance/Middle way Campers like me are aware of, the previous alternative theories to Liberalism etc and the subjects within it are supposedly among few of the subjects that people are allowed to out-right lie about both inside academia and without.
The political machine against the proto Fourth political theory has never really ended going back to its first inception. It has only surmised new forms, and Dugin, has also taken up this mantle. While this is no shock to most people who have been inundated with this narrative since their younger days in one way or another from their education to their media consumption, it also holds correct for someone of the intellectual merit as Alexandre Dugin.
Dugin’s across the board critique of fascism, generally speaking, is that it takes part in the bankruptcies of all one modernist ideology after another in an indistinguishable way (like. liberalism and Marxism) this type of belief in non directional or dull progress, historicism, in addition to being a “globalist” ideology. In particular, Dugin imposes the truth that the National Socialists were trying to create a “global Aryan government,” and he rightfully condemns their racism and he connects it to the exact ideology that lays the groundwork for/sustains liberalism (liberals are apparently the real racists)
One obvious mistake in Dugin’s analysis is the absence of a historical and theoretical comprehension of some of the fascistic movements he is criticizing.
One example is that makes the mistake of pondering that the private opinions and works of Alfred Rosenberg were the ideological platforms of the Third Reich and the religious like conviction of National Socialism. Dugin writes, “In German National Socialism, the historical subject is the ‘Aryan race’, which, according to racists, ‘carries out the eternal struggle against the subhuman races’”. A footnote exists here which is appended to this and it cites Rosenberg’s Myth of the Twentieth Century leaving out any particular pages. He keeps this up in another work writing:
“[Carl] Schmitt’s National Socialism fundamentally differs from the National Socialism of Hitler or Rosenberg precisely in that Schmitt thinks in the category of peoples, not of one people, the German, or the notorious “Aryan Race,” by which ignorant Nazis understood only Germans themselves.”
There are numerous problems upfront here which shows that Dugin is wrong with this viewpoint and misses the point
Rosenberg aside, Dugin has not a lot of understanding of what was meant by the terms of the NDSAP
Another idea of Dugin’s to be debunked is his insistence that all forms of fascism, too (the types I don't list in my Anti posts in these blogs), is an evolutionary movement and that the National Socialists reconciled a racial interpretation of this notion [ie. of Nietzscheanism]: this along with similar things that Alexander Dugin said the National Socialists adopted.” is more ahistorical nonsense.
There is no authentic claim that can be put forward by Alexander Dugin to argue that the NSDAP wanted to go as far as Alexander Dugin said they wanted to go, even if they did in that exact way Dugin claims. If this was actually the case, and, as Dugin makes it appear to be, the National Socialists were so blighted with ideology as to be the core of its doom (more on this later), then why did they make alliances with various non-white peoples of the world such as the Palestinians, the Indians and the Japanese?
This also debunks Dugin’s claims of a global government and his other false conspiracy theories about the NDSAP etc
Another critique Dugin made against German NDSAP is was the reason for its demise in the “historical, geopolitical, and theoretical sense.” Like, Dugin points to the anti-Slavic hatred of the Reich leadership for making Germany declare war on Russia and so be erased from History. Dugin’s outlook on said issue again is lacking genuine context and are a enormous oversimplification.
Alexander Dugin doesn't see the context or nuance in the relation between Slavs and the NDSAP, instead Dugin relies on the false info he peddled as a Pimyat member in the 1980s to falsely paint the situation
Dugin also ignores the alliance between Bulgaria and Germany.
There is a weird paradox of Alexander Dugin rightfully condemning the pan-Germanic irredentism and racist imperialism of Naughtizes and also the Third Reich for being united mega globalist when the geopolitical desires of Dugin’s Russia are as bad if not worse than those of NDSAP Germany!
Dugin says that for Russia – with the Russian volk at its center – to be at the nucleus of a Eurasian “large space” or human development. This would, partly, incorporate Russia taking Mongolia, some of Northern China, the eastern portions of Europe, Finland, and the Caucuses. A very ambitious blueprint than most other similar ones and certainly no slouch in comparison with the evil NDSAP irrdentism and racist imperialism
When we delve into what Alexander Dugin has in store for his Fourth Political theory. But we observe that it increasingly more starts to take after the
Third Stance/Middle way Camp . In the second volume of the Fourth Political Theory he states something about a people's union which makes it appear that Dugin has no particular issue with creating
Third Stance/Middle way Camp things like a people's union in the 4pt, at its root.
Keeping that in mind, we find that once we really get the left wing economic side of the
Third Stance/Middle way Camp ideology as being about the people's union – as any casual glimpse at official 1950s German OrdoPublicism writings can tell us – you see that more and more that is the same thing that Alexander Dugin alludes to with the 4pt
The one defense in Dugin's writings that push back against the view would be the remark his made that
the NDSAP stopped research into background Sociology including people's unions with racist dogma
With this, Dugin is speaking to his work he did with sociology, in which one of his narratives is that background sociology is not based on what others think it is. It is instead according to him, based on a variety of socioclasses, clusters etc
While the second point above is given as a method to show that some things do not matter in the grand scheme of things as concepts since it’s just about acknowledging one starting point which is more so than not soulist or fabled/legendary without necessarily being of a similar starting point. there is not one reason, under a background sociological substructure, why the admittance of just one starting point cannot be based in some more reductionist and attributed stuff
Before we go off the deep end though, it’s vital to state that there are still true integral variances between the
Third Stance/Middle way Camp and 4pt even after throwing out Dugin’s pronounced unfounded criticisms. For instance, the
Third Stance/Middle way Camp has modernist burdens which the 4pt purely doesn’t possess and, because of its relatively young lifetime was never able to gain anything from the acumen and discernings of postmodernism and different schools of thought that the 4PT relishes
Another difference between the
Third Stance/Middle way Camp and 4pt is that the 4pt is not a fixed political ideology as the numerous iterations of the
Third Stance/Middle way Camp are like the 1950s OrdoPublicism of Germany (
National Socialism, 1950s Ordoliberalism is third way, ordosocialism is nazbol), Spanish 1960s 1970s Neoliberalism
(falagnism fascism), or National Syndicalism
(fascism)
This difference is born due to a couple of reasons. The main reason is not any parent ideology for the
Third Stance/Middle way Camp in the way that Karl Marx was the parent for the next political theory, nor was there a blend of the diverse thinkers, in a geographical and also a smart conceptual way, as there was on the side of liberalism which was able to establish key tenets and open discource among its different progenitors and idealogues which halted the linguistic isolation as was the case with the idealogues of the
Third Stance/Middle way Camp
The 4pt in contrast, was definately much started to be an “open” ideology which went beyond and below the shutness of logos — which renounce the nothing, something which the previous three ideologies all have in common among them — and into the chaotic open world.
So from its inception the 4pt was constructed as a base, a point of commence, for more exact ideologies (like Dugin’s earlier 4pt writings, or Israel Lira’s Crisolism), at the same time that the
Third Stance/Middle way Camp (in maybe a poetically got what it deserved way) was, from the start, massively linked to its one nationism (like One Nation Labour) or socialism in one countryism and its more specific conditions rather than getting inspiration from a wider ideological or outlook system tradition. The abundant
Third Stance/Middle way Camp ideologies that surfaced in the early to mid 20th century were, thus associated to one another more by historical fates as opposed to the purposefulness of drawing on a shared ideological cornerstone
This lacking of a shared ideological groundwork was among the key errors of the
Third Stance/Middle way Camp, historically in context, for the time they were upclose with the problems of their day, like the emerging geopolitical menaces, without a past convention to lean into, they commonly needed to adopt modernist band-aids. Also due to Social chicago school liberal pinochetism (
rpl fascism/nat soca) they were inflicted with a brutal demise in its infancy, they were not again able to make alternatives. Thus the shattered essence of social fascistic threat and its quick shell life has become the number one intellectual struggle facing the
Third Stance/Middle way Camp in the postmodern era
However, highlighting these deviations should not cast a shadow over the similarities. For the 4pt too is putting Heidegger’s Dasein as its classical theme is able to be seen, if just in a instinctive
rooted way, found inside the workings of Actualism. Though Alexander Dugin dismisses that as only being wrapped up in “a Right-wing version of Hegelianism.”
This blowback by Dugin also does not notice other resemblances between Hediegger and Actualism such as the critique of Hegel they have which is familiar to both ideologies, despite both of them only meeting one time and never being knowing of work's of the other (mostly because of lack of translation). In fact, Actualism philosophers and Heidegger give off a vibe they actually have more in common with one another than it would first look, but more philosophical research has to be done on that to see if its true
In Eurasian Mission, Dugin puts forth his vision for what’s ocasionally seen as “One Struggle.” Even citing the power to form pacts with first world national global (4pt according to conservapedia nat glob) individualists (white nationalists, first world nationalist used as code by conservatives at 2012ish conservative conference for white nationalist, i used said code word in previous pre main blog blogs)
and considerably
rightoid European political parties just as long as they don’t stick up for the US (in its here and now form), globalism, etc.
I have no qualms about this. I solidly believe in a few or more of the key principles of what Dugin goes on about. We have to have some type of universal revolutionary solidarity in opposition to capitalism, globalism, and down the line maybe Atlanticism (ymmv), and whatever other thing we can throw in this opposition stew. Of course this admission evidently, even if it is not its intention, presents us with the fact that the aperture between the
Third Stance/Middle way Camp and the 4pt are not as big as they can nominally be perceived
My utmost criticism of the 4pt is that it states too much its distinctiveness and divergence with the
Third Stance/Middle way Camp while doing that also denying it the attested and rational credit that it has earned. If we are to inspect and give opinions on an ideology by its haters, then the fact that two ideologies: high capitalism and communism ardently opposed
Political syndicalretic thought and became aligned to turn the whole planet against it is telling
The thing I am proposing is that we are able to start to see the 4pt as the inception to a rectification
and rectification of
Political syndicalretic thought that never came about.
In particular (however not exhaustively), embracing Dasein, chronicled principlalism, perennialism, and free left wing stuff like
Political syndicalretic thought: cleansed from its a-cosmopolitan historical oddities, while at the same time emancipating
Political syndicalretic thought from the bondage of 4pt's modernism boogeyman and adding onto it new perceptions that have evolved since WWII. The 4pt is not the quintessential element, but it can be used as the first step into reclaiming
Third Stance/Middle way Camp
Political syndicalretic thought: (can't say fascism i.e Third Political theory so I use Political (as in Democrat political machine which is right wing like back then), syndical +syncretic (syncretic adds leftism liberalism to fash and syndicalism is what fash bascially is i combine terms to make it fascist like), thought (xi jinping thought type of thought in terms of political labels)
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social state corporatism:
To use the word known as Corporatocracy collectivism (fascism) to mean the merger of corporate power with the power of state in the west hemisphere is very deceptive because of the fact that the two completely different matters in terms of the future complexion of political power are confused with underneath the label
Said ideology is not better or worse than the ideologies of FDR, Liberalism and Joseph Stalin/USSR
This would be at minimum a rehabilitated form of Corporatocracy collectivism
from:
ley said:
Hence to use the term 'fascism' to describe the merger of corporate and state power Western countries is highly misleading since two entirely different issues about the future nature of political power are being confused under the term 'fascism'.
Here we're back to the same conversational conundrum as we've been in before. I think you're trying to say that there's a bad fascism and a good fascism? I don't understand what you mean by the good form of fascism, except for your occasional attempts to re-habilitate Franco, Mussolini and Hitler.
In my opinion Franco, Mussolini and Hitler fully deserve their bad reputations; even if, in fact, Roosevelt, Churchill and Stalin were equally as evil. Certainly the relative merits of the axis powers vs. the allies are open to debate here. But I refuse to join in any sort of singing the praises of historical fascists.
I keep asking you to come up with some sort of euphemism or neologism for your good form of fascism, and I don't recall that you've ever come up with anything. And I want to know what's supposed to be so desirable about this allegedly good form of fascism.
For now, I continue to warn possible readers who will see your red 'resident Fascist' badge.
https://postflaviana.org/community/index.php?threads/the-secret-goldfish.22/page-2#post-17850
This ideology is the political ideology of a current or former mod of the subreddit of a animated or non tv series that eerily resembles my life as a child and teen and whose username on reddit is: (Simpsons)
Incognito_igloo https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/radkz4/moderator_in_rsimpsonsshitposting_comes_out_as_a/ https://www.reveddit.com/v/simpsonsshitposting/comments/r9jow1/bart_becomes_a_blackshirt_he_has_realized/
https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/radkz4/moderator_in_rsimpsonsshitposting_comes_out_as_a/
first letter same as the fifth letter in the name of the friend of dad's younger brother who i saw in red white shirt on couch once in 1980s (I as in dennIs)
second letter is last letter of the second word of a title of a comedic tv series we used to watch in SWMHS theater class (N as in mr beaN)
third letter is first letter of a fun back and forth board game I played on Xmas 1988 with my cousin at night while I had a headache (C as in Crossfire)
forth letter is the second letter of the last name of my former Salk classmate who was working at the music store Coconuts in Parlin NJ when I bought a music album there in the early 2000s (I think it was Backstreet Boys Black & Blue album( O as in erica hOban)
fifth letter is the first letter of a nickname my dad had for one of his friends who worked in retail not far from our home in Old Bridge (G as in Greek)
sixth letter is the first letter of the nickname of my dad's mentor as a child and teen (N as in Nippy)
seventh letter is the sixth letter in the first word of a two word name for a WWF wrestler toy I had in the mid to late 1980s (I as in punchIng bag)
eighth letter is the last letter in the name of the skit my former church did on Easter in one particular year within the last few decades (T as in losT)
ninth letter is the second letter of the name I gave my first stuffed clown doll as a kid (O as in dOn)
first letter of second word is the sixth letter of the last name of a power mod on a forum I used to troll in 1999-2000 based on a popular film/tv series/band (I as in chuck gramlIng)
second letter of second word is the first letter of the first name of the NBA player I traded to the Knicks in the mid late 1990s in my make believe NBA league (G as in Gheorghe mureșan)
third letter of second word is the name of the daughter of my maternal grandmother's friend and also the mother of the out of state kid I played with at one of my maternal grandparents house in the late 1980s early 1990s (L as in Laurie joachim)
forth letter of second word is the seventh letter of the nickname of the college football player I drafted to my custom Madden 2006 team in the summer of 2006 who was a star in that game and in real life in the NFL (o as in megatrOn)
the last letter of the second word is the second letter of my maternal grandmom's youngest sister's favorite drink (O as in vOdka)
to summarize: his/her username is a combo of the image on the cover of the album of the band that was on the soundtrack of a late 1990s/2000s movie that had at least one member of a boyband in said movie (trinity hi fi whose song if only was in 2gether movie ,their fuego album ,the incongito man in blue on said cover)
AND the sprite of a jrpg/tactical rpg video game character who was in the class named after a WWF wrestling character from the 1980s and or 1990s who was from the midwest in real life (Bersereker Umaro who Final Fantasy VI mobile version tent sprite is of an igloo)
Third International theory rpleces fascism/third pol theory in fascism part at end of said national dissendent article, though I only downplay 3IT below, and leftize it as mentioned below:
from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Third_International_Theory&oldid=1154376501
Omar gaddafi worked w 3rd poisitonists see wikipedia 3p article for more
Ideologies that are too whacky to be implemented or who simply are left behind of other ideologies (to justify moving beyond but reforming it, newwhackyideoloiges is a real subreddit)
Like the municipal self management system in Titoist Yugoslavia and Yugoslavia's Third Way (i add western third way to said link)
in the mid late to late 20th century along with Maoism especially his Three Worlds Theory (as an allternative to capitalism and communism in a postcolonial feminism sort of way . It includes something like Direct democracy, African Nationalism and 1980s Democratic central south region (Democatic USSR republic of Afghanistan) of the USSR variant of USSR Socialism (Islamic socialism but replaced w vague reference to USSR controlled 1980s Afghanistan implementing USSR's socialism)
Other aspects includes giving power to the people via a congress for the people by the people (a true peoples' democracy)
This also includes failed/defunct ideologies who used this type of utopia mentioned by the Gravel Institute here source destiny subreddit/ Third International theory
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